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Newtron packer old
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:50 pm
by asle
Hi there
A quick note to the ones interrested in PTK packers. I've just finnished converting the musics from the musicdisk
Little Joe & Newtron Musicdisk. It's a variant of the Newtron Packer we already know. I've called this "Newtron Packer Old" but I'd say this version is the real "packed" one when comparing to the format in
Newtrons Music Box.
Anyway, you can download the packed and depacked files
here (1.2 Mb !).
format is like this :
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Newtron Old format
Created by ?!?
Analysed by Asle (asle@free.fr)
Source :
- Aspect & Orix musicdisk
Offset size (byte) Comment
------ ----------- -------
0 2 addy of pattern list -8 (X)
2 2 size of pattern list (Y)
4 4 ?
*******************************************
* the following is repeated (X/8)-1 times *
* with 8 bytes description for 1 smp *
******************************************************
*
8 2 Sample Size / 2 *
10 1 Finetune (0 -> F) *
11 1 Volume (0 - 40h) *
12 2 Loop Start / 2 *
14 2 Loop Size / 2 *
*
******************************************************
X+8 Y Pattern table
X+8+Y Pattern datas
(Pattern datas are stored like Ptk)
(one pattern is 1024 ($400) bytes).
Follow the Sample datas stored like ProTracker.
Nothing is packed..
Cya
Sylvain
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:55 am
by Muerto
Sweet!
Any chance you could share the rest of the packed tunes?
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:05 pm
by asle
Hi Muerto,
Well, that's the lot. You got all the seven musics in the archive.
Sylvain
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:32 pm
by Fraggie
Nice to see that you're still digging into this stuff, asle. Have you ever tried to decompose the so called Pierre Adane or Peter Verswyvelen packers?
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:42 am
by Muerto
Copyed my modules yesterday to the comp in my livingroom for comparing the Newtron mods...
I dont know witch production who came first, but it seems that the modules you ripped last is regonized by DeliPlayer as Newtron Packer 2.0.. just so you know..
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Newtron Packer 1.0
20-09-2004 04:43 82.574 Newtron's_Music-Box0_Intro.NTP1
28-10-2002 21:04 87.906 Newtron's_Music-Box1_Fish..NTP1
28-10-2002 21:04 79.596 Newtron's_Music-Box2_BloodyMarry..NTP1
28-10-2002 21:04 189.108 Newtron's_Music-Box3_RealHeavy..NTP1
28-10-2002 21:04 73.656 Newtron's_Music-Box4_Rock..NTP1
28-10-2002 21:04 103.180 Newtron's_Music-Box5_FloorMix..NTP1
28-10-2002 21:03 219.682 Newtron's_Music-Box6_MaxMix..NTP1
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Newtron Packer 2.0
21-01-2007 05:05 137.888 ASPECT_ORIX-Musicdisk-heartbreak.NTP2
21-01-2007 04:46 217.856 ASPECT_ORIX-Musicdisk-hit.NTP2
21-01-2007 05:02 118.704 ASPECT_ORIX-Musicdisk-i am back.NTP2
21-01-2007 04:55 94.696 ASPECT_ORIX-Musicdisk-sampletest.NTP2
21-01-2007 05:08 99.156 ASPECT_ORIX-Musicdisk-to be alone.NTP2
21-01-2007 05:00 129.528 ASPECT_ORIX-Musicdisk-tok in space.NTP2
21-01-2007 04:46 58.534 ASPECT_ORIX-Musicdisk-wake up tune.NTP2
Do you know if there exist more mods in this forat?
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:08 am
by asle
Hi Muerto,
Well, NTP2 are ealier that NTP1, at least for the prods they are used in. Though, the formats themselves suggest clearly the other way around. I'd say NTP2 is in fact Newtron Packer and NTP1 should be Newtron Player. No other file is found as of yet, and I've handled all ORIX prods of Amigascne.org. If you know of some other ...
Cya
Sylvain
Re: Newtron packer old
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:14 pm
by Alexco
asle wrote:Hi there
A quick note to the ones interrested in PTK packers. I've just finnished converting the musics from the musicdisk
Little Joe & Newtron Musicdisk. It's a variant of the Newtron Packer we already know. I've called this "Newtron Packer Old" but I'd say this version is the real "packed" one when comparing to the format in
Newtrons Music Box.
Anyway, you can download the packed and depacked files
here (1.2 Mb !).
Cya
Sylvain
Hi!
I just found this forum and found this thread about our music disk!
Woah! In 2007
Some information from my perpective (as far as I remember), since I know Newtron (Torsten) and Contra (Torben). The first music disk was created by Contra. He wanted a "special" loader, but not an own disk format. So he came up with the idea of creating one huge file inside an amiga dos disk.
Magic Fly (Arno and brother of Newtron) wanted that the songs are "unripable" with the automatic ripping function of Amiga Action Replay. So Contra deleted/scrambled some part of the header of those mods.
Later, when we were "Aspect", he added some packing to the module loader. So Newtrons Music Box was created before Little Joe/Newtrons Musicdisk.
regards,
Alexander
aka Crossbow/Suxx/Success of Terrana/Orix/Aspect
P.S.:
I found some Orix/Aspect Demos in the encyclopedia, but not all are downloadable. Any idea where I can get them? I have no possibility to scan my Amiga disks at the moment.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:17 pm
by zeg
Hello Alex..
please reload the Kestra page with the Aspect releases.
And if you have got some interesting Amiga demo disks left, propably we can arrange something to have got them archived.
bye bye
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:41 am
by Alexco
zeg wrote:Hello Alex..
please reload the Kestra page with the Aspect releases.
And if you have got some interesting Amiga demo disks left, propably we can arrange something to have got them archived.
bye bye
Wow, looks cool!
For the disks, I have some hundred disks here, mostly 5 1/4". I got this disks in 1996/1997 from Laurin as a legacy and newer touched them so I can not really say what I have.
Yesterday I tried some of my own disks and half of them failed (disk error). Even my "OKS Import Division Demo Disk"
.
For disk transfer I have an 4000er with network card, so that should not be a problem.
regards,
Alex
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:35 pm
by BuZz
Alexco wrote:
Yesterday I tried some of my own disks and half of them failed (disk error). Even my "OKS Import Division Demo Disk"
.
Have a look at the disk surface. Sometimes dirt/dust can gather over the years in additional to magnetic surface deterioration. Sometimes I find I am able to read a disk by taking it out from the plastic and giving it a gentle wash in soap and warm water
Also, some drives are better than others, so it might be worth trying a few external drives.
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:59 pm
by Alexco
BuZz wrote:Alexco wrote:
Yesterday I tried some of my own disks and half of them failed (disk error). Even my "OKS Import Division Demo Disk"
.
Have a look at the disk surface. Sometimes dirt/dust can gather over the years in additional to magnetic surface deterioration. Sometimes I find I am able to read a disk by taking it out from the plastic and giving it a gentle wash in soap and warm water
Also, some drives are better than others, so it might be worth trying a few external drives.
Wash in soap and warm water?!?!
I will try this if nothings works
Some OT question:
Since I can not guarantee that those disks are free of all kind of virus, is there a good anti-virus tool? I remember VT and searched AmiNet but there are so much tools, even from 2004!
Any suggestions?
regards,
Alex
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:04 pm
by BuZz
Alexco wrote:
Some OT question:
Since I can not guarantee that those disks are free of all kind of virus, is there a good anti-virus tool? I remember VT and searched AmiNet but there are so much tools, even from 2004!
http://www.vht-dk.dk/vhtdk/amiga/ve/ve.htm
http://www.aminet.net/package/util/virus/VirusZ
and latest xvs library for use with both programs:
http://www.vht-dk.dk/vhtdk/amiga/xvs/xvs.htm
If you want, you could post me any disks (including damaged ones) with important information and I can try my best to recover the information for you.