Authors: Groepaz; email@example.com First Vision Document (Vision C64) Hein; firstname.lastname@example.org Second Vision Document (Vision C64/Amiga) & Mixing the two docs together. Dishy; email@example.com Additional Info on Vision Denmark (C64)
Thanks and regards must fly out to the following individuals frum Groepaz: Rene 'Tyler' Kriest ... for finding SINAPISM 2 Martin 'Spook' Frech ... for sending SINAPISM 5 Crossbow/Crest - for his efforts in collecting old demos, specifically for fixing SINAPISM5 for C128. The Guardian/Camelot - for countless hours of craptalk on irc :o) Scenery64 - for letting me steal some info i didnt remember :=P Acidchild/Triad (?) - also for his efforts in collecting demos, found working d&d collection (If you think i have forgotten something in this list please let me know) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks and regards frum Hein (scenedudes): All Vision members.. for creating great demos, code, graphics and music and hopefully for having just fun. Cheers! Groepaz.. for keeping the Vision history up-to-date with his original Vision text-file. Thanks. Rick 'Ice-T' Hoekman.. for endless support in my moody days, and being a great friend and creative soul. Arthur 'Ozzy' van Jole.. for the inspiring talks, his great passion for music and pixels, and also a warm friendship. Richard Wagenführer.. for his great Demoscene Collection, info, and suppling almost all Vision-Amiga demos, and lending me his catweasel to convert old Amiga disks. Crown/Cryptoburners.. for pleasing the Amiga musicians. Everybody who's been nice and loving. :) All at C64/Amiga scene for being cheerfull and happy about silly computerstuff.
All time memberlist
Name Date Hobbies Place Main Productions Groups before Vision Groups after Vision - Amj fin Motion Axonian B28 Bird dk Blo 89-90 Code/Gfx/Music nl Contest Demo, Crazy Twilight? Bluez 5/90 Music swe Choice Came Cash swe Contact Vision Cruel 10/93 Curlin = New Society Code/Crack/Swap/Pr ger Sinapisms, Vision Cracks Ice Afl, Triad, Hitmen Dealer swe Dishy 10/93 Diskbandit 10/93 Dr. Jones Econ (=Icon?) 5/90 swe Choice General scan Glasnost Code/Graphics scan The Mist, Mist 2 Camelot Grapple Groepaz Code/Music ger Sinapism 3, 4 & 5, Vinews Ice Afl, Triad, Hitmen, firstname.lastname@example.org Gryzor 5/90 swe Choice Heavyhead 10/93 dk Hph = Hein Design 88-89 Graphics/Music nl Legalize it, Sinapism Hsp, Orion Density, Bml, Focus Hst Hsc 1988 Code ger Sinapism Houbba (=Hubba?) 10/93 swe Smokerings, We can I-Man Iceball 10/93 Icon 10/93 swe Smokerings Inxs swe Use yar Illusion, Kamazaike Ironex 1988 Graphics ger Sinapism Iznogoud Jihad (Jhd) Code/Crack ger Abdul Khan, It's Digital Action, Hitmen, email@example.com Jive Jucke swe Luxor Magnum Mayday Merlin Crack Cracks Mic Midnight Mover 93 BBS 'Illusion of Reality' swe Mr. Smart 10/93 Newscopy swe Nick Carter Peacemaker ger Plug 1 Graphics Plug 1 Grafix Poison Racoon = Mad Butcher Swap/Graphics ger Ray 10/93 Code Dungeons & Dragons Ricky D 1988 ger Sinapism 1 & 2 Run DMC 1988 Code/Swap/Pr ger Sinapism 1 & 2 Satan Crack Scooby 5/90&92-10/93 Graphics swe Choice Shock 88-89 Swap/Pr nl Hsp, Orion Skyhigh scan Slaine 1988 Swap nor Sphinx scan Mist 2 Status 5/90&92 swe We Can Choice, Light Stubby Tds The Guardian (Tgd) Code/Gfx?/Music dk The Mist Camelot, firstname.lastname@example.org Tll 1989 Code nl Tmm Tomcat 7/90 Exact Tsm 88-89 Code nl Legalise It, See Ya Hsp, Orion Tronix Walt Tbl Wave Graphics dk Dungeons & Dragons Camelot Wolf 10/93 Xoss 10/93 X-Radical 5-10/93 Nirvana Yabba Code scan Mist 2 Zagon 5/90&92 Code swe Choice, Light Zeqe
Name Date Hobbies Place Main Productions Groups before Vision Groups after Vision - A3 89? nl Gurus Addict 89? nl Gurus Asp 1989 Gfx/Music/Code nl Graphics in Mega Demo 1 Blo 89-90? Code/Music/Gfx nl Micro Demo, Music Mirage Crackerjack 90 Code nl Mega Demo 4 Axis Mirage Darkfalk 89? nl Facet 89-91 Gfx/Music nl Graphics in many demos Anarchy, Lemon, Spaceballs Flash 89-91? Swap/Packs nor Many Flashpacks Hph = Hein Design/diArt 88-now Gfx/Music nl Graphics in many demos Hsp, Orion Spaceballs, Analogue Homeboy 91 Code nl Being Stoned. Rick = Ice T 90-91 Music/BBS nl Music in Vision demos. Jetaza 89-90 Swap/PR/Packs nl Many Ultrapacks. Gurus Maikel 89? nl Megatron 89? nl Moonwalker 89? nl New Deal 89? nl Orc/diArt 91 Graphics nl Micro Demo Prime Time 1989 Music nl Music Masters Redstorm 89? nl Shock 1989 Swap nl Hsp, Orion Sience 1989 nl Slash 90-92 Code/Gfx/BBS? nl Breakdown, Snakes Mirage Starwolf 1989 Swap nl Stingray 89-91 Swap/Packs nl Tbm 1989 Music nl Music Masters, Intromusic. Gurus Tsm 88-92 Code/BBS nl Megademos, Can't Be.. Timelord 89-92 BBS Bad Habbit nl Bad Habbit Sphinx? Urx 89? nl Vector 90-92 Code nl Nude TV 2, Power Cartridge Mirage ? nor
All time demolist
Name Date Is? Place Produced by, Released at, Some specs.. - A new Vision ger Abdul Khan 2-12-89 ger Code by Jihad, coop with Marcus+Toby of Alphaflight. For Giants and Unitec Meeting. Amiga Breakdown 2-9-89 Demo nl Code by Tsm, graphics by Hph, music by Mon. Another ger Produced by Curlin & Plug 1 Andrenochrome ger Produced by Groepaz. Ass-o-chrome ger Produced by Jihad. Back to Stay Demo scan? Back? No Way! 29-7-89 Demo nl Code by Tsm, graphics by Hph, music by Mon. Beat Dis! ger Produced by Jihad. Best Moves 1989 ger? Best Moves 2 5-10-89 ger Produced by Jihad. Bugger All 19-8-89 Demo nl Code by Tsm, graphics by Hph, music by Mon & 20cc Contact Vision 1992 Contactnote scan Produced by Cash. Contest Demo 1989 Demo nl Code by Blo & Tll, graphics by Blo & Hph, music by various. Released at Twins and BadBoysCrew party. Crackintro 1 Intro ger Crackintro 2 Intro ger Crackintro 3 Intro ger Crackintro 4 Intro Crackintro 5 Intro Crackintro 6 Intro Crazy 2-9-89 Demo nl Code by Blo & Tll, graphics by Blo & Hph, music by various. Demopack 1990 Megademo ger Dungeons&Dragons Slideshow dk Code by Ray, pictures by Wave, music by Reyn Ouwehand. Fair Charts 1 (vsn+logic) Magazine scan Fair Charts 2 (vsn+logic) 1990 Magazine scan In Kuwait! 1993 Demo? ger Produced by Curlin. Intro by Tsm 1988 Intro nl Code by Tsm, graphics by Tsm, music by Mon. Intro 2.2 1990 Intro ger It's Digital ger Kamazaike scan Produced by Inxs. Kick Ass !! 3-8-89 ger Leaving Them 18-10-93 By Dr. Jones. Legalize It 17-10-88 Megademo nl Code by Tsm, graphics by Hph, music by Mon. Winner at Joy, Mgf & Wwe party Veenendaal Nl. Martina 1990 swe Produced by Stubby, Gryzor & Icon Meeting demo 27-11-90 dk Produced by Glasnost & The Guardian. Message Creator 88-89 Note Maker nl/ger Produced by Tsm, New Society & Hph. Memory Packer v2 Cruncher ger Mist (The) 1990 Megademo dk Produced by Bird, The Guardian & Glasnost. For Daniax Competition Mist 2 1990 Megademo dk Produced by Glasnost, Yabba, Gryzor & Sphinx. No Sinapism 1989 demo Produced by Merlin & Axonian Note to All Note ger Plug 1 Grafix Slideshow ger Code by Curlin, graphics by Plug 1. Prevision 1990 Megademo ger/dk Produced by Glasnost, Sphinx, Curlin & Groepaz. Released in Venlo. Ranx Feb. Plug 1 1990 Note ger Saddamned..! Demo ger Produced by Peacemaker. Sample ? See Ya ! 1988 Demo nl Code by Tsm, graphics by Hph, music by Mon. Simplistic Intro 11-3-89 Intro nl Code by Tsm, graphics by Hph, music by Jch? Sinapism 1 17-12-88 Demo ger Sinapism 2 24-12-88 Demo ger Code by Hsc, graphics by Ironex, Hph & Mgi. Sinapism 3 4-3-89 ger Code by Hsc & Run Dmc, graphics by Hph & Mgi. Sinapism 4 17-6-89 Megademo ger Code by Curlin, Groepaz, Run Dmc, Ricky D & Swedes, graphics by Groepaz, Hph, Tsm & many others. Sinapism 5 pv 1989 Demo ger Code by Groepaz & MCFaraday Sinapism 5 1989 Megademo ger Code by Jihad, Groepaz & MCFaraday, graphics by Hph. Smokerings 1993 Megademo swe Code by Houbba & Icon, graphics by Houbba & Icon. Music by various. Tbl bye Vision Demo scan Produced by Walt. The Editor 1990 ger Use yar Illusion 10-91 Demo swe Produced by Inxs, coop with Rickmeister / Tpf. Vinews Preview 1990 Magazine ger Vinews 1 1990? Magazine ger -For Everyone Note Vinews ger Produced by Jihad. Visiomizer V6.3 2-92 Packer scan Charpacker by Zagon. We are Back! 9-93 By X-Radical. We Can... 14-10-91 Megademo swe Code by Gryzor, Houbba & Icon, graphics by Houbba & Icon. Music by various.
Name Date Is? Place Produced by, Released at, Some specs.. - all nl 1st Amiga Intro 1989 Intro Code by Tsm, graphics by Hein & Tsm. 2nd Amiga Intro 1989 Intro Code by Tsm, graphics by Hein, music by Walkman/It. 3rd Amiga Intro 1989 Intro Code by Tsm, graphics by Hein, music by Hein - orig: Scout by Mon. 5 Yards Demo Code by Slash, graphics by Facet. Airwolfintro v1 Intro Code by Tsm, graphics by ?, music by Hein - orig: Airwolf by ? Airwolfintro v2 Intro Code by Tsm, graphics by ?, music by Hein - orig: Airwolf by ? ACS Intro Intro Code by Tsm. Another One Demo Code by Slash, graphics by Facet. Blo's 1st demo Demo Code by Blo, graphics by Blo & Facet, music by Blo. Born 2B Cool Breakdown Demo Code by Slash & Vector, graphics by Facet & Slash, music by Hein. Can't Be... Demo Code by Tsm, graphics by Hein, music by Hein - orig: Rubicon by Mon. Contactdemo Demo Crackintro Intro Dexion Party GFX Slideshow Code by Tsm, graphics by Hein, music by Hein. No. 5 at Dexion party. Flashintro PackIntro Flashpackintro 1? PackIntro Flashpackintro 2 PackIntro Focused on Art (coop) Slideshow Code by Dan / Anarchy, graphics by Facet, music by Hein. Coop with Anarchy. Friendshipintro 1 Intro Friendshipintro 2 Intro Fun & Enjoy 1 Glenz Intro Intro Code by Tsm, graphics by Hein, music by Hein. HouseMusic Musicdisk Code by Tsm, graphics by Facet, music by Tbm?&Prime Time? Illegal Copy 1 Jam? Love Like Blood BBS Meeting demo Megademo 1989 Megademo Code by Tsm, graphics by Asp, Hein & ripped, music by Hein, Walkman/It, Whitakker. Megademo 2 1989 Megademo Code by Tsm, graphics by Hein, Tsm, Arakis & ripped, music by Hein & ripped. Megademo 4 Megademo Code by Crackerjack, graphics by Facet & Crackerjack, music by Tbm or Prime Time. Mintro Intro Code by Tsm, graphics by Hein, music by Rick & Hein. Music Masters Musicdisk Code by Tsm, graphics by Facet, music by Hein, Tbm & ripped. Musquito Coast BBS New Release Nude TV 2 1990 Animationdemo Code by Vector, graphics by Hein & videoanimation, music by Hein. Released at Dexion party. Potje Oranje Prime 90 Microdemo 1990 Demo Code by Blo, Crackerjack & Tsm, graphics by Blo, Facet, Hein & Orc. Music by Blo & Rick. Radical Demo Code by Slash, graphics by Facet, music by Blo? Rebelslogo Sine&Equalizer Intro Sineintro 1 Intro Sineintro 2 Intro Sineintro 3 Intro Sineintro 4 Intro Snakes (Game) Game (Amiga & PC) Code by Slash, graphics by Slash, music by Hein. Tilburg Copyparty Invitationdemo VF, AF partydemo? Demo Violation packmenu Packmenu To Be Shaded More?? Little BBS Tools Code by Tsm. amiga DemoPacks Flashpack 1-?? (by Flash) Demopack Pack by Flash. Happy Hippo 1-?? Demopack Invasion Demopack Triljoen (by Facet) Demopack Ultrapack Demopack Demopack by Facet, Jetaza, Stingray & Tsm. no.2 1989 Demopack Demopack by Tsm. Violation 1-87? Demopack Spontanious Packs Demopack SNES Vision intro (Tsm) Intro Others..(Tsm)
To be classified
C64: ??.??.???? Demo: "saddamned..!" (Peacemaker) ??.??.???? Demo: "andrenochrome" (Groepaz) ??.??.???? Demo: "tbl bye vision" (Walt) walt leaves for tbl ??.??.???? Demo: "beat dis!" (Jihad) ??.??.???? Demo: "for everyone" (jihad) contact note for vinews ??.??.???? Demo: "ass-o-chrome" (jihad) ??.??.???? Demo: "plug1 grafix" (curlin, plug1) ??.??.???? Demo: "another" (curlin,plug1) ??.??.???? Demo: "contest demo" for wins and bad boys crew party (hlo,tll) [hein]: (blo,tll,hph) ??.??.???? Demo: "d&d collection" ??.??.???? Demo: "sample" (!WANTED!) ??.??.???? Demo: "No Sinapism" (Axonian, Merlin) existing copy crashes after 2nd part :/ (and seems to be missing files aswell) ??.??.???? Mag: "Vinews Prv" (Groepaz, Hein Design) little preview screen ??.11.1989 (?) Mag: "Vinews #003" (Jihad, McFaraday)
Amiga: all demos. :) sigh... Amiga unreleased/not finished Pac Maze AMI Playable 50 levels. Very enjoyable to play. Code:TSM, Music:Rick, Gfx:Facet/Slash/Orc/Hein Megademo 5 AMI* few sources? Some sources are the same as Global Journey Musicdisk. Global Journey musicdisk AMI finished sources/gfx/mods (TSM&Hein) Trip to Fractalus (released?) AMI executable / sources? (Vector/Slash/Facet) Power Cartridge (KCS) AMI* almost finished sources? / logo (Vector, some guy whats his name) small stuff/others/unknown AMI What happened to Megademo 3?? Demo is never made. Odd. It's possible that TSM had plans to make Megademo 3, just before Crackerjack started on a megademo for Axis, later released as Megademo 4 for Vision. TSM probably used some routines for other demos n intros.
Groups before Vision
Netherlands: Orion c64 Demos Can't Be... 1988 C64 Graphics Logos C64 HSP c64 Demos Sounddemo 1-5 (unrel.) 1987? C64* Introduction 1988 C64 Short Contact 1988 C64 Contact Us 1988 C64 Outtop 1988 C64 Mega Strike 1988 C64 Manowar 1988 C64 !Members Wanted! 1988 C64 In Dulce Decorum 1988 C64 unreleased part 1988 C64 Going Dutch 1988 C64 Snazzy 1988 C64 Wallie (game knak) 1988 C64 Ultrarip (Sid rips) 1-11 1988 C64* Graphics Logos Pictures C64
The '1st Generation Vision' (started in 1988 by TSM+SHOCK+HPH, died in 1990)
The "real" vision was *originally* VSN.DE, and VSN.DK joined in early 1990 before VSN.DE was almost dying, things went better and at the end of 1990 VSN.SE joined in aswell... [note: mmh that doesnt fit looking at when certain stuff was released] [note: VSN.DE should probably better be named .NL+.DE] 1988 - The group achieved success with their very first demo, "Legalise It" [10/88] Topping the competition at the MGF + JOY + WWE party in october! 17.10.1988 Demo: "Legalise it" for joy/hgf/wwe party (tsm,hph) The first vision production ever 17.12.1988 Demo: "Sinapism" (!WANTED!) 24.12.1988 Demo: "Sinapism 2"
04.03.1989 Demo: "Sinapism 3" (tsm,hsc,hph) [hein] As far as I know, Tsm has not worked on Sinapism demos. 11.03.1989 Demo: "Simplistic intro" (tsm,hph) 17.06.1989 Demo: "Sinapism 4" (Groepaz, Curlin, TSM, HPH, many...) ??.??.1989 Demo: "Sinapism5prv" (Groepaz, MCFaraday) (!WANTED!) This was a 2 filed preview of the parts from the german ppl. only the first file could be located until now. ??.??.1989 Demo: "Sinapism5" (Jihad, Groepaz, MCFaraday, TSM, HPH, many...)
29.07.1989 Demo: "back, no way" (tsm, hph) 03.08.1989 Demo: "kick ass !!" (new society) 19.08.1989 Demo: "bugger all" (tsm, hph)
02.09.1989 Demo: "amiga breakdown" (tsm, hph) 02.09.1989 Demo: "crazy" (blo,tll)
??.??.???? Demo: "note to all" (new society) Hph has just left for density/scoop Memberstatus: tsm, shock, run-dmc, ricky d., morrissy, grapple, i-man iznogoud, slaine, groepaz, jihad, tmm, tds, darklord, slaygon, codex, airwolf, blo, tll, modesty, powpin, stingray, new society (!WANTED!) ??.??.1989 Demo: "best moves" (by TSM ?!) [hein] Not by Tsm.
05.10.1989 Demo: "best moves 2" (Jihad)
02.12.1989 Demo: "Abdul Khan" for Giants and Unitec Meeting (Jihad, coop with Marcus+Toby of Alphaflight) (note: Marcus+Toby/AFL equal New Society aka Curlin and Groepaz/VSN. Dont remember wether we were in both groups or not that time :) [gpz]) 1989 - Merlin left for WWE in december.
The 'Vision+Sire coop'
- (13 January 1990) "Ionix Died/Ionix+Vision" announces the death of "ionix". Jive, Kreator and flash games join vision, asshole changes handle to blitzkrieg and joins x-ray. slime joins orion. duck dunn joins lotus. the "wuppertaler section" rejoins dualis. my-t-fast joins amok. event, channel-z, damion and vison join united artists. deff jeff and scoundrel leave the scene. powerdual (australia) re-joins d.a.a.s.
1990 - Cracker Jihad (Vision was his first group) was persuaded by Spitfire/Action to join Action sometime in 1990. Swedes Bluez, Econ, Gryzor, Scooby, Status, Zagon and Zinus were all recruited from Choice around may, though Zinus' stay was short - he left around june. Finnish AMJ joined from Motion, while Tomcat joined from Exact in july. Vision started releasing cracks from this time on aswell... ??.??.1990 (?) Demo: "Prevision" released in venlo (Glasnost, Sphinx, Curlin, Groepaz) memberstatus: Curlin,Groepaz,plug1,luxor,came,tmm,tds,jive,bird,b28,mad butcher ??.??.1990 Demo: "a new vision" (Curlin) memberstatus: groepaz,curlin,plug1,tmm,tds,luxor,rob base,jive, mad butcher, bird,came ??.??.1990 Demo: "Martina" (Stubby, Gryzor, Icon) ??.??.1990 Demo: "The Mist" for Daniax Competition (Bird, Tgd,Glasnost) ??.??.1990 Demo: "Mist II" (Glasnost, Yabba, Gryzor, Sphinx) why "mist" ? * TGD-CML is proud to announce (again) that he came up with the very original "Mist" demo name ;) "in any case, I settled drawing a logo one day, (not being a GFX'ian) and I liked it so much I decided to code some "tech-tech" routine for it and other stuff, and then glasnost (etc) called and wanted to do some demo for the next upcoming party, and we agreed at a meeting previous to the party that we would call the demo Mist (the first Mist-demo ;)" <TGD> 27.11.1990 Demo: "meeting demo" (Glasnost, Tgd) last vision denmark production
- (1990) "A Sad Moment/Vision" has some info about the death of vision and the split into light and hitmen. members that joined hitmen are: curlin, mad butcher, twf, thunder, rough, tom, slayer, plug1
- (27 November 1990) "meeting demo/vision" note says: "one day after we made this little laame demo (?), we (vision denmark+sweden) joined - l i g t h - signed the guardian of ligth"
1990 - Vision split up and died in november and december of 1990. All the good Swedish and Danish coders went to Light, and the entire german section joined Hitmen. WOW's "Internal #3" [01/91] wrote that RAF and Curlin (crack) had joined Hitmen, but in reality RAF never did. The mistake was cleared up in the next issue of Internal. Oct'1990 : VISION breaks up. the group split and Curlin (official leader) claimed VSN to be dead for good. VSN.DE -> Hitmen VSN.SE -> Light.SE VSN.DK -> Light.DK Dec'1990 : (at Dexion Xmas party Odense/DK) Light.DK -> Camelot members: Glasnost, Sphinx, The Guardian Light.SE -> some ex-VSN.SE members are kicked Light.DK -> members who dont join Camelot are kicked from Light.
Jan'1991 : There is no VISION group since oct'1990 (according to notes from Curlin and mags) ??.??.19?? (?) Mag: "Vinews #002" (Curlin,Jihad) -released under the HITMEN label- 02.01.1991 (?) Mag: "Vinews #003" (Curlin,Mad Butcher) -released under the HITMEN label- ??.01.1991 (?) Mag: "Vinews #004" (Curlin,Mad Butcher,Jihad) -released under the HITMEN label- ??.??.199? (?) Mag: "Vinews #005" (Curlin,Mad Butcher,Jihad) -released under the HITMEN label- http://www.hitmen-console.org (further hitmen history here)
The '2nd Generation Vision' (started after Jan'1991 by ???)
??.??.199? Demo: "Smokerings" (Houbba, Icon, Page) 14.10.1991 Demo: "We can..." Memberstatus: (from "we can..." note:) Mayday, Status, Icon, Inxs, Jucke, Zagon, Houbba, Cash, Dealer, Newscopy ??.10.1991 Demo: "use yar illusion" (inxs, coop with rickmeister/tpf) ??.??.1992 Demo: "contact vision" (Cash) 1992 - Zagon released version 6.3 of his charpacker called Visiomizer in february. ??.??.199? Demo: "kamazaike" (Inxs) Inxs leaves for ruthless
The '3rd Generation Vision'
1993 - Danish Wave joined Camelot early in the year. X-Radical joined from Nirvana in may. Xoss was reported as leaving the scene in may (source: Bodycount's "Vandalism News #10" [06/93]), which must be a mistake, since I have a record of him still being in vision as late october. Droves of people left in may; Wave joined Camelot, Scope and Midnight Mover (sysop 'ILLUSION OF REALITY') joined Triad, Malcom joined X-Factor, while Satan and Ray joined F4CG. This last one is doubtful, as they are both recorded as members in october... Fairlight's "Reformation #3" [06/93] carried news that the group had died... Dr.Jones left in october, since he was unhappy with the activity of Satan and the group in general. 1993 - 'ILLUSION OF REALITY' is the oldest scene board in Sweden! spring 1993 - Hitmen dissolved ??.09.1993 Demo: "we are back!" (X-Radical) 18.10.1993 Demo: "Leaving them" (Dr.Jones) ??.??.1993 (?) Demo: "in kuwait!" (curlin, coop with peacemaker/chromance) 1994 - Zore (or Xore?, 10/93) joined Palace in september. [Dishy about Danish Section of Vision]: I think the danish section was really cool. Satan and Ray(both ex. F4CG and Genesis Project) were some of the best quality crackers in my opinion, and I know Satan(leader danish section) really cared a lot for Vision, and did the best to make VSN no#1. And they actually was number 1 in a few quality charts, that I´ve just downloaded;-) Also they released some 1.st releases fixed by Empire and Coderz. I´ve got many of their VSN releases, and when I get the time and a transefercable, I´ll uploade their cracks, and also send them to you;-) Also Wave of Vision won the graphics-competition under the Vision label at The Party in Aars 1992.( I´m 100% sure I´ve got his masterpieces at my c64-archive - a really talented artist - just like you Hein:-) Anyway, there´re still missing a lot at the homepage, but I know it takes a long time to get everything, and it´s probably a "lifetime project" Satan and Ferro joined VSN from Conic in early 1992. later in 1992 also Ray and Wave joined from Unicess. And Wolf/F4CG, Nigel/Contex(old coder), Zeus and Shogun both ex. X-Ray also joined in 1992, as far as I remember.. So they werealso also members of "The 2nd Generation Vision", as you call it and not the 3rd generation. Some X-Factor members joined later on in 1993, I think. More update maybe later.
december 1995 - Hitmen was rebuild former Vision Members: Jihad, Groepaz, Peacemaker, Curlin http://www.hitmen-console.org (further hitmen history here) The Guardian - still in Camelot, to be found on irc #C-64 Dishy often on CSDB: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/scener/?id=5186
HEIN became active on the C64 again some time in 2004. Mermaid joined on 14/10-2006
Uncommented Trivia and babble
<TGD-CML> did you code some game-previews (for vision) ? :) <groepaz> uhm gamepreviews for vision..... not that i knew <TGD-CML> I mean, gamepreviews, that VSN would "get hold of" and then crack+release :) <TGD-CML> once I got a gamepreview from Curlin, <TGD-CML> and it featured music.... MADE BY ME! LOL <groepaz> TGD-CML: curlin coded that stuff then probably ;=)
<iopop> Genetix, wasnt that some xmembers of vision? got some cracks of them from 92-93 .. <TGD-CML> iopop >> I believe so... got some of the cracks too... from.. uhm.. cant remember who :)
<Twoflower> Groepaz: You are aware of the fact that the biggest commercial computermag in Sweden stated that Curlin was a girl. :-) <TGD-CML> groepaz >> he's a lamer :) uhm, that's probably how I ended up in VSN ;) <groepaz> Twoflower: hahahahaha WHHHAAAAAT ?!?! tell me! gimme scans!!! ;=)))))) <TGD-CML> groepaz >> uhm, that is a general idea about curlin... <Twoflower> Groepaz: Yes, it's true, and he wrote quite some lines about it, like "Curlin swapped groups from ????? to ????? - surely an easy feat, since Curlin is known as the only girl in the scene, so she is welcome anywhere.". :-) <TGD-CML> groepaz >> we (me and Bird/ex-VSN) bugged him about it until he sent us a pic of his GF, stating that he computed TOGETHER with his GF! :) <TGD-CML> please extend DMz ? Dator Microz ? and Handle of Daniel Willby ? :) <zeroblue> Datormagazin <iopop> TGD-CML: datormagazin, Daniel Willby doenst have any known handle.. no one knows who he is.. <zeroblue> iopop: what has this Willby guy done then? <TGD-CML> zeroblue >> fucked up Curlin's macho-image ;) <groepaz> he really sent a picture ??? of whom ? manuela or nicole ? <TGD-CML> groepaz >> nicole.. <groepaz> ohh <groepaz> that was early then <groepaz> pre ~90 or sth <TGD-CML> that was *indeed* early. :) prolly 13 years old girl ;) <TGD-CML> Bird told me he was gonna return it... not sure he ever did ;) <zeroblue> what girls? tell me?!?! <TGD-CML> ehehe... did you know her in person ? <TGD-CML> zeroblue >> Curlin/ex-Vision's GF's :) <zeroblue> and they were 13 years old? <groepaz> sure did... we were all living in the same small village <TGD-CML> zeroblue >> she looked like 13 years on the pic he sent (back in the late 80'es/early 90'es :)
1st & 2nd Party Demo Reviews (The biased ones)
We Can... by Houbba & Icon
This demo was the result of whatever sources we had available. For some time we had not been part of any active group and suddenly both of us could join Vision, thanks to Icon who knew a few members since earlier. Mostly old code and effects were picked up and refreshed with new logotypes suitable for the new group. As always, in a hurry, it was released with the name "We can do on our own", because a lot of people had left Vision and the coordinator Status somehow wanted the name to reflect that it didn't matter. It was still a successful demo that brought Houbba and Icon to the top five best C64-coders in Europe in some charts. Further more, "We Can" was reviewed in a Turkish computermagazine and you may read it if you wish (551x768 jpegs, about 200kb in size). Highlights are the worlds first sideborder sprites on real FLI-splits by Houbba and a very nice FLI-plasma that Icon received some hatemails for (they thought he ripped their code, how pathetic).
Smokerings by Houbba & Icon
Our last demo on the eternal C64. Smokerings scored an unfair second place at a meeting we've long forgotten all about. Highlights in this demo are a cool multiplexed sidebordersprite snurkelscroll by Icon, and a 128 DYXCP experiment by Houbba.
Legalize It by Tsm, Hph & Shock.
Vision's first demo, after the three of us left Orion and started our own demogroup Vision. Tsm came up with the name Vision, and soon he started programming some extra parts for a new demo. It had to be a demo made for Orion, but we left that group before the demo was finished. Music in the demo was supplied, do not tell anybody, by Mr. Decibel of Orion, and he got them from Charles Deenen. So, actually, some music, like Gaplus Preview, had not been released at that time. The music contributed alot to the power of the demo, especially to the jury at the WWE party I guess. Some sids we did not use, mainly because they took alot of processortime. Ala Gal I believe.. Very nice piece of music, but wow.. the vibos are kicking in. -Intro is the main Vision intro, with bubbling stars and bubbling music by Mon. The intro contains a neat bouncing logo on top, gfxed by Tsm, and a presentation text about the demo in a starfield tells us what demo you're about to see. Below on the screen is a rasterbar with the everlasting scroll reminding us to press space and have fun. -First part shows colourfull moving rasters, with a vertical band moving in a smooth sinus with rasters in them. The band is made of sprites. So.. rasters in a sprite band, on a raster background. A timing thingy. The sprites are not moving over 255. The sinus is very smooth and has a nice increase and decrease in the speed. As if it moves in the wind. A scrolly on top tells us what this part(y) is all about. -Second part of the demo is a Fid routine, with nicely coloured rasters underneath a big blue Vision logo. The emulator shows well on 640x480. Awell.. I did not count the nops.. or what was that, half nop?? Tsm has been taking his time to get the rasters perfect, moving the screen on the monitor from left to right. Mr. Cursor was the one being the first to do a Fld routine with rasters underneath. He called it Fid. I believe the trick was to fix the rasters just perfect in the sideborders aswell. The color-chars thrue the logo are kinda nice still, flashy and simpel. A starfield made of sprites with a 4x4 scroll on top finishes this part. -Third part is a very nice part, with a large scroll that seems to be bitmap. It's not, ofcourse, its a rastertrick again. The font is divided into 3 layers of raster, I think, or 2, :) and the rasters switch the color in horizontal way. Simple trick, but quite effective. Allthough, if the graphics were difrent, the effect would have shown better. That's what has been spoking in my head ever since it has been made. Anyway, the font is still one of my personal favourites, it's the same as used in part 1, only very big. A techtech Vision logo in the middle shows that it's still a Vision demo. Tsm wanted to program a tech-tech and it ended in this part. I do not remember who was the first to do techtech, but it was hot at that time. The planet-gfx are stolen from Netherworld, a very nice game, with neat graphics and great music by Yip. We converted the planet into sprites and Tsm coded it into that part aswell. -Fourth part is a mirror effect, made with Fld and sprites. It was the simplest solution to an idea that we had. Below a beach-air font scroller with difrent speeds, there is a rastersplit. I do not know how it's made, by my gues it's just a rastersplit moving from left to right. Rastersplit was one of the things Tsm wanted to create. He just loved sinusses, so he put in a sinus. -Fifth part has a very nice sinus-dot(line) scroll. I guess Tsm had a go on making a big sinus scroll after he saw a dycp? I think he thought that stretching the dycp is more impressive. The logo below is quite nice, with backlit mountains, and a logo behind them lit from below, giving the impression that the light is comming from the valley behind the mountains. Actually, it's just 2 pieces of graphics glued together, not thinking about the consequenses of lighting. When I see it back, it gives some extra depth to the logo. Awell, 2 lightsources are not all that hard. Great music by Jeroen again, Cybernoid 2. The game had just been released and that music was just so impressive, that we had to use it. -Sixth part shows a big ambitious logo and a very nice half sinus-scroll. The scroll is made in bitmap, rol rol rol, I think, so there's not much time left for the rest of the screen. The sprites try to finnish the part, but they're one detail too many. Still a great technical piece for that time. The music is one that does not take too much time. By Jeroen Tel. (hein)
See Ya... by Tsm, Hph & Shock.
Tsm's last (he thought) demo on C64 because he had seen the Amiga light. A delight for programmers when they are used to 6502. The demo consists of an intro and a main part. The intro is the main Vision intro. The main part has a mirror-effect as seen on Amiga, only programming it on Amiga was a bit easier, with the built-in processor-friendly coppers. On C64 its a nice piece of programming, quite nifty at that time, and the 2 logos are simple, but I do not know why it's not just one big logo. Maybe one is an instance of the other. The scroll below is a standard big scrollroutine, with a weird 'n spacy blue font. The music is by Jeroen Tel, Savage level 3 I guess. Cool hi-pass filtering. (hein)
Back, no Way by Tsm, Hph.
A plot routine that had not been used yet, so I wanted to put a little demo around it. The plotroutine is quite nice, with late removal of the plots. The movement increases n decreases making weird shapes. Unfortunately, on top of the plotroutine are 8 balls moving in a sinus-circle shape. They move a tad too fast. Below it is a 4x4 scroll with a Rambo font. Just one of those things a gfx-dude likes to draw. The music is again by Jeroen Tel, Savage level 2. I remember we had found the tune seperately on the Mr. Decibel disk. I think it's slightly difrent than the sid used in Savage. (hein)
Bugger All. by Tsm, Hph.
A sound-analizer routine also something Tsm had not used in any demo yet but I liked the routine. The music is 'Spijkerhoek' by 20CC, with very nice instruments. Spijkerhoek was a Dutch soapseries at that time. The analizer is quite weird actually, because the parameters are inverted. Still, very funny to see music-routine parameters move in an analizer kinda way. It was about, how many analizers can you code? Ofcourse, it's not a real analizer. Below the analizer we see a standard 4x4 scrollroutine, with an Orc-inspired font. Underneath the scroll, that contains weird text by Hph, there is a big n colourfull Vision logo. From a gfx-dude point of view, it's practical joke about how to use bitmap in a controlled manner, unlike the Koala/Amicapaint colourclashes seen at that time. Made in Paintmagic, which has a built in feature to control the 2 bitmap colours by yourself, instead of letting the machine decide. Unfortunately, the nibble colours cannot be changed, only afterwards by poking them urself. Erik/Density programmed a paint-programm like Painmagic for Tlr/Density and me to be able to control the nibblecolours as well. Later, Robert Tan/Bml showed his stunning graphics in Micro-Illustrator which has been my favourite programm ever since. On top of the logo the Tsm slogan 'Born 2 B Cool' is bouncing in a sinus. A small dycp in sprites. Used in Snazzy/Hsp as well. (hein)
Amiga Breakdown. by Tsm, Hph.
I had made a very big Vision logo, because I felt like prestige. With a very handy editor, I forgot which one, I tried to make the biggest logo possible. :D I used all 256 chars to built the logo. Then ofcourse, it has to scroll, very unhandy of me, but else you cannot see the complete logo. Tsm programmed the big scroll, with a very nice sinus, making it a smooth mutherfucker. He put bars on top and below to frame the logo so to say. The bouncing scroll on top of the logo is made of stretched sprites, with a techno font. The scroll dances nicely with the great music by Jeroen Tel from Navy Moves. A great composition. (hein)
3rd Party Demo Reviews
Legalise It (1988, 17.10, Multifile Demo).
code: TSM, gfx: HPH, music: various. Winner of the MGF + JOY + WWE Copy-Party demo competition! review from scenery64:
"LI" is an uneven demo, which shines more than it rusts, and is easily the best demo from 1988 I have seen. It's a multi-part demo, where the first part you load serves as an intro of sorts, and once you press space you are given a choice of loading any of the six other parts in the demo. None of these load further after viewing, but each can be loaded and executed individually. All code was done by TSM and all graphics by HPH, while the music is likely all ripped - and only with the correct credits given in two of the overall seven parts. After the intro, which is nothing spectacular, we will review each of the subsequent parts with their numbers as given in the selector:
part 1 - We can assign no other name to this than tech-texh raster. It features rasterbars over large portions of the screen, while the middle features what seems like a 'band', don't know if it was done with rastersplits or whatever, but this band at least waves in a tech-tech like fashion. Music by Maniacs of Noise.
part 2 - This one is nicely designed: the top half is occupied by a bouncing Vision logo with colors going through it, in a neon-light-like fashion. This is done over rasterbars, with a scroller over a starfield on the lower half of the screen.
part 3 - This is the first 'wow' part, as it features a BIG colorful scroller at the top of the screen. Beneath this a blue Vision logo is given the tech-tech treatment, and below that again a blue planet travels from side to side.
part 4 - This is rather unspectacular, with a VSN logo moving around the screen while exploding and imploding into itself... Below this is a scroller overlaid on a single rastersplit.
part 5 - The best part technically, we suspect, this one brings a huge, big dotscroller top the top half of the screen! Vision sprites are bouncing around, and a great Vision-in-the-mountains logo rests at the bottom of the screen. I *KNOW* that music is on the tip of my tongue, but I just can't seem to remember who did it... =[
part 6 - The concluding part has the text 'VISION NO.1' pressed across the bottom two thirds of the screen, done in the same font as used for the large scroll in part 3. In addition, this graphics piece moves slightly from side to side. A scroller at the top of the screen has a 'pseudo-sine- scroll' effect, in that it kind of changes level half-way across the screen... oh just download and watch, and you'll know what I mean! =)
What makes "Legalise It" a cut above the rest, is the good (for its time) graphics, the sense of design and the very cool coding expressed in parts like the dotscroller. It's simply just a cut above the others, and that is what makes it just a little special. They mention in the scroller (in the intro I think) that this was their first demo. [glenn]
Some Party, in Oosterhout? VF/AFL party?
Remember that Vision released Megademo 2 (amiga) there. Porn Movie, hard dick, Jungle Command, and sum guy being way too macho on us sweet teenagers. Haha. Was it u?
Prime '90 Vision-Active-Aces party Tilburg Netherlands 1990. Boerke Mutsearts Party Centre. Felt quite big sitting on the podium. :D Anyways. Maybe Remi Ebus/Remark fell in love with me there too, being invited on the podium. So, hence the Kramer. Mmmm, MicroDemo by Vision released. A little meeting was arranged at our place to fix the demoparts together and so on. Quite sattisfying result. One of my favourite Vision demos, since its made by 3 programmers, 3 gfx artists and 2 musicians working together as a small team, on a one file demo.
Arranged by Vision too?? I do not remember.
Sum party in Rotterdam?
Release of Breakdown/Vision made by Slash.
Vision & Sharks party Frankfurt/Mainz? Germany 1989? Vision Germany has started there, with Mark Paddock (A very nice guy, who invited me over to visit the Vision party, even paying for the trip, I feel ashamed thinking about it afterwards. You'll definately get the money back if we meet. Big respect to him and his nice parents for inviting me over at that time. What used to be his handle?), Curlin (I remember him to be a Bros fan at that time, and looking a bit like one of the Bros) and Jihad (with his kewl darkgrey car) http://www.vision64.de.vu/ I'm curious about this link.
Waalwijkse Computer Club. A meeting arranged every month by Facet's (Martijn van Meel) father. A backbone in Vision's life. Thanks!! Also, Desire, Mirage, Silicon (C64), Mirage visited this meeting alot. Especcially very good contact with Dennis (whats his handle again) of Silicon. Actually, his fascination for light shows in his demos with lotsa flashy n shiny colours, and in his work he's done later in life: lighting of a disco.
Oosterhout Computer Club. A meeting arranged by some people, where most demogroups of the Dutch province Noord-Brabant came together and be nerdish for a day. Groups that visited OCC often: Cool Crew & Prime (put together they make Density), Vision, Judges, Scoop, Orion, The Dutches, Silicon LTD, BWB, Twilight, Riffs and lots more freakish people making demos.
Venlo Meeting (1985?-199?)
Every month arranged by the Courbois family (a small caring mom, and 2 big brothers). I believe they had bought it from other people. Before Courbois this was the centre of the Dutch demo/cwakking scene. Big groups have fought their battles over there. No-one won, only Commodore. Then Courbois took over, and the so-called elite was no more. Smaller groups showed their skills, and old groups carried their respect with or without dignity. Still, it stayed THE C64 meeting in Netherlands.
I've only visited it once in it's dulling days. Mad (Density) and me had a very long walk getting there. Geeee... anyhow, where was the computerroom?? hehe. This must have been a great annual party. Search for a link.
Joy-MGF-WWE party Veenendaal NL 1988
I still feel this to be the best cpu-party I've been to. Old youth-house with dark rooms, and we searched around and found lotsa artistic paintings, props, and stuff. Mmmm, the best place to show our teen-frust, coz it was an anarchistic place. Before this party there had been a small party in Veenendaal too. Arranged by WWE. It was a warming up for the one to follow. Small n cozy. First met TDJ/Focus there. He has been a member of WWE at that time.
Dexion Party Denmark 1990?
Big trip with a van of 9 people?? Very nice adventure for a teenager. Luckily no-one had a crush on me. :D Facet, TSM, Stingray, Timelord, Jos, Vector, Slash, Hein.
Anarchy Party Derby/UK 1992?
Small party, traveling with Facet to meet up with dudes from Anarchy (Dan, Nuke, Danish guy), visit their working place Core Design, and visit the Anarchy party. Great stuff. Those people had to work hard for deadlines, still kept on making demos. That's the spirit. Sigh.. Thanks to Nuke for having the impression that my dubieduw module was cool enuf to win 1st price at the music-compo. I won a 1st price plate. A nice token for a crappy tune.
Big trip with a van of 6 people? Also, another adventure. With spacecake, and marihuana which the people at that party did not like, so we smoked it in the van. ugh. Facet, Ramon B5, Ardy, Cool dude with big forehead, Mario van Zeist, Hein Very impressive party. Extremely big hall with lotsa ants.
Silicon Party 1991?
Lemme seeeeee... First party was a small one?? I did not visit. Second one was a bigger one, with groups like Focus, Silicon, TRC, Orion, House Design, Scoop?, Union?.. i dunno. I remember that we at Blackmail wanted to release Dutch Breeze at this party, but it was not finished, or bug-free so to say. So we released a preview version, being good enuf to win the demo-contest. Cheers, mates!! Great party coz it thrilled me bones to see our demo not really being all that stable. hehe. Third party I visited too, I guess. I do not know. or, we won at the third party and I visited the 2nd n 3th party.
X-parties 1996, 1999, 2000?
Guess I've visited 3 of these X parties. Allthough I have been bored with computers for a long time, really, dull pixels n shit, still very nice to meet old friends. THE motivators of the Dutch C64 Scene after the Commodore rebels fell on their knees for Emperor Bill the 1st.